Something else that I’ve always wondered was the postmark itself also used to hint towards Zodiac.
“ In 1850, Vallejo proposed plans for a new city, to be called Eureka, with the capitol, university, botanical garden and other features. After a statewide referendum, his proposal was accepted, although a new name was decided upon: Vallejo. “
Something else that I’ve always wondered was the postmark itself also used to hint towards Zodiac.
“ In 1850, Vallejo proposed plans for a new city, to be called Eureka, with the capitol, university, botanical garden and other features. After a statewide referendum, his proposal was accepted, although a new name was decided upon: Vallejo. “
Nice, that is a good find.
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
“I simply cannot accept that there are, on every story, two equal and logical sides to an argument.” Edward R. Murrow.
Zodiac hid "One in Paradise" in 340 — Edgar Allan Poe also did wrote "Eureka: A Prose Poem".
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
The part I don’t like about the Eureka card is that the closer we get to North American Aviation, the more relevant questions like: "Did Zodiac work on Apollo 13?" might become.
the more relevant questions like: "Did Zodiac work on Apollo 13?" might become.
I doubt that question will ever be relevant.
the more relevant questions like: "Did Zodiac work on Apollo 13?" might become.
I doubt that question will ever be relevant.
I am sorry but what does Aviation and Apollo 13 have to do with this card?
Now that’s a relevant question.
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
The short version is that North American Aviation was the manufacturer of the Apollo command modules. NAA was possibly the most important aerospace contractor on the Apollo project.
– The fatal Apollo 1 fire, during a 1967 ground test, happened in a command capsule manufactured by NAA. Gus Grissom and two other astronauts died. It delayed the moon landing by a year and a half.
– The oxygen tank that exploded on Apollo 13 came from North American Rockwell.
https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/l … pollo%2010.
The no. 2 oxygen tank used in Apollo 13 (North American Rockwell; serial number 10024X-TA0008) had originally been installed in Apollo 10.
– My recollection on this next point is a little foggy, but there was a third mishap during the previous Gemini program. A craft went into a dangerous roll during a docking attempt in space. IIRC, the going theory is that the cause was a malfunction in a part worked on by NAA. Although, IIRC, there was no certainty about the cause.
After the fire, NAA took a beating in a Congressional investigative report about their performance on the Apollo program. They merged with Rockwell shortly thereafter. So a spotty performance record isn’t something I’m affixing from 2021. It was noted contemporaneously.
Obviously these are believed to have been accidents. And we don’t have a substantial reason to doubt that assessment, at this moment. North American also wouldn’t be my first choice for aerospace company that Zodiac possibly worked at. But if DNA proved that Zodiac was Chet Klingel’s old drinking buddy from NAA, it might open a particularly depressing can of worms.
Why would the Zodiac be an associate of Chester Klingel, and not Chester Klingel?
And why would anyone think Zodiac had anything to do with NASA?
Manufacturing is fraught with peril at the best of times.
Why would the Zodiac be an associate of Chester Klingel, and not Chester Klingel?
And why would anyone think Zodiac had anything to do with NASA?
Let me give it a whirl…
After being hangers-on to AK Wilks’ "Ted K is Zodiac as Anti-Military Industrial Complex/Anti-Technology Sector Terrorist" theory, some of his former followers have branched off in related veins with alternate suspects.
Since some of them almost certainly think the League City letter is from Zodiac, and that letter mentions "the NASA horseman Abel" NOT being "the devil sought"…due to patented Zodiac wordplay, this must be a misdirect or clue indicating there really IS a NASA connection to some other "horseman", not necessarily Robert Abel.
Owwww…now my head hurts…anybody got an aspirin?
Why would the Zodiac be an associate of Chester Klingel, and not Chester Klingel?
And why would anyone think Zodiac had anything to do with NASA?
If you were the Zodiac killer would you send a photocopy of you own traceable keys ?
I think not…
Zodiac used Apollo stamps…
Thirteen Hole Postcard, October 5th 1970, 1 X Apollo 8 Moon Orbit stamp.
Halloween Card, October 27th 1970, 1 X Apollo 8 Moon Orbit stamp.
and…
The Jensen/Faraday murder Dec 20, 1968 (they were shot ca. 11:14 so 45 minutes to Dec 21) APOLLO 8 launch , Dec 21 1968
Paul Stine murder Oct 11, 1969 , the exact 1 year anniversary of the APOLLO 7 launch Oct 11 1968
Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me 
Can I ask: how they were linked to a man named Chester Klingel?
“Nobody called him Arthur.”
The short version is that North American Aviation was the manufacturer of the Apollo command modules. NAA was possibly the most important aerospace contractor on the Apollo project.
– The fatal Apollo 1 fire, during a 1967 ground test, happened in a command capsule manufactured by NAA. Gus Grissom and two other astronauts died. It delayed the moon landing by a year and a half.
– The oxygen tank that exploded on Apollo 13 came from North American Rockwell.
https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/l … pollo%2010.The no. 2 oxygen tank used in Apollo 13 (North American Rockwell; serial number 10024X-TA0008) had originally been installed in Apollo 10.
– My recollection on this next point is a little foggy, but there was a third mishap during the previous Gemini program. A craft went into a dangerous roll during a docking attempt in space. IIRC, the going theory is that the cause was a malfunction in a part worked on by NAA. Although, IIRC, there was no certainty about the cause.
After the fire, NAA took a beating in a Congressional investigative report about their performance on the Apollo program. They merged with Rockwell shortly thereafter. So a spotty performance record isn’t something I’m affixing from 2021. It was noted contemporaneously.
Obviously these are believed to have been accidents. And we don’t have a substantial reason to doubt that assessment, at this moment. North American also wouldn’t be my first choice for aerospace company that Zodiac possibly worked at. But if DNA proved that Zodiac was Chet Klingel’s old drinking buddy from NAA, it might open a particularly depressing can of worms.
Ok. So it goes back to Chester Klingel and a possible drinking buddy of his who may have worked for North American Aviation? This being based on the idea that if Klingel wasn’t a match for the Zodiac then it might have had something to do with someone who knew Klingel? North American having to do with the Apollo mission(s), the Zodiac using an Apollo stamp and possibly having something to do with the Zodiac’s shoes?
I see some talking about Klingel in reference to the keys but I haven’t seen evidence that the keys actually belonged to Klingel or any member of his family. Saying it is so, without providing evidence, doesn’t make it fact but appearing more in line with the big lie. Nothing wrong in checking into it as far as one can check but I certainly wouldn’t take it as gospel because there isn’t any evidence presented to support the claim. So, with all due respect, I have no interest in discussing anything pertaining to Klingel without seeing the facts.
Outside of Klingel, I don’t see where North American Aviation or the Apollo, has anything to do with this particular card. Can you enlighten me on this? I would actually be interested in reading what you may have to offer on this subject, especially, as it relates to NASA / Apollo. Now mind you, I don’t think Zodiac had anything to do with NASA or any of the Apollo missions, but I do think it had some interest to the Zodiac.
Thanks,
Soze
